The Essential Oil Scoop
”The Essential Oil Scoop” is the perfect blend of humor and holistic health. Join your dynamic duo host, Vicki and Sarah, as they dive into the world of essential oils and all things wellness. With their sassy, witty commentary, they give you the “scoop” on the latest trends and techniques for living a balanced and healthy life.
Whether you’re a seasoned essential oil expert or just starting your wellness journey, ”The Essential Oil Scoop” will leave you feeling refreshed, inspired, and ready to tackle the world with a little extra pep in your step. Get ready to elevate your health game with this upbeat and entertaining podcast.
Episodes

Tuesday Jan 06, 2026
Tuesday Jan 06, 2026
In Ep. 267- Emotions Stored in the Body: Circulatory System- Heart~ Sharing Your Light with Melissa we go all in and share a few ways you can put Melissa essential oil to work that you might not know about.
So grab a comfy chair, sit back and enjoy learning.
We love you! Let's make 2026 a beautiful one. One intentional dorp of oil at a time.
Also...... Get this Book! Link for Essential Emotions book. You need it. https://aromatools.com/collections/frontpage/products/essential-emotions-14th-edition
Pre Order The Essential Life book here https://essentiallife.com/product/essential-life-10th-edition/
Are you ready to release emotions that have been weighing you down? Book a session today!
Book with Vicki: https://vickilebrilla.com/coaching
Book with Sarah: https://sarahsepos.com/coaching
Vicki's Link- http://referral.doterra.me/1214454
Sarah's Link- https://referral.doterra.me/107766
Scoop of the Day
Use 1/2 drop on thumb and apply to roof of Mouth
Diffuser Recipe
4 Tangerine
2 Melissa
Welcome into our little essential oil world where we talk about the physical and emotional support of our essential oils.
Hi friends, don’t forget to leave us a review, your feedback is always welcome, and helps this podcast reach more ears.
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We upload a brand new episode every Tuesday and Thursday!
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Thursday Jan 01, 2026
Thursday Jan 01, 2026
Happy New Year Everyone! 2026 is going to be a wonderful year for this podcast and yourself. With so many essential oils and products, we never run out of ways to inspire, educate, and bring you powerful conversations all around the products you love and trust.
Welcome into the new year with #Frankincense essential oil and #Digestzen. Listen to these previous episodes to learn more about them.
Frankincense Episode- https://theessentialoilscoop.podbean.com/e/ep-256-the-oil-of-truth-the-wisdom-and-healing-of-frankincense/
Digestzen Episode- https://theessentialoilscoop.podbean.com/e/the-essential-oil-scoop-ep-9-boosting-digestive-health-6-of10-part-mini-series-about-the-best-oils-to-have-on-hand-digestzen/
Spoil Your Pet Book- https://amzn.to/4jjudau
Register for Jumpstart 2026 https://jumpstart.doterra.com/
Also...... Get this Book! Link for Essential Emotions book. You need it. https://aromatools.com/collections/frontpage/products/essential-emotions-14th-edition
Pre Order The Essential Life book here https://essentiallife.com/product/essential-life-10th-edition/
Are you ready to release emotions that have been weighing you down? Book a session today!
Book with Vicki: https://vickilebrilla.com/coaching
Book with Sarah: https://sarahsepos.com/coaching
Vicki's Link- http://referral.doterra.me/1214454
Sarah's Link- https://referral.doterra.me/107766
Scoop of the Day
Use Revitazen and Frankincense under your tongue
Diffuser Blend
2 Frankincense
4 Citrus Bloom
Welcome into our little essential oil world where we talk about the physical and emotional support of our essential oils.
Hi friends, don’t forget to leave us a review, your feedback is always welcome, and helps this podcast reach more ears.
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We upload a brand new episode every Tuesday and Thursday!
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Remember to like, share, and subscribe to our podcast so you will be notified every time we upload a brand new episode. Leave us a review as well, your feedback is always welcome.
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Tag us on socials using #theessentialoilscoop #essentialoilpodcast #oilpodcast
Disclaimer:
Welcome to The Essential Oil Scoop Podcast. We want to remind our listeners that the information provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The use of essential oils is a personal choice and should be done at your own risk. We are not medical professionals and cannot diagnose, treat, or prescribe any medical condition. Please consult with a qualified healthcare provider before using any essential oils or making changes to your healthcare routine. Any information or opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any particular organization. Thank you for listening.

Tuesday Dec 23, 2025
Tuesday Dec 23, 2025
The New Year is around the corner, and Christmas is day is just two sleeps away. Let yourself begin the new year with more hope, and blessed new beginnings. In Ep. 264- go from stagnation to possibility: New Beginnings with #CitrusBloom
Also...... Get this Book! Link for Essential Emotions book. You need it. https://aromatools.com/collections/frontpage/products/essential-emotions-14th-edition
Pre Order The Essential Life book here https://essentiallife.com/product/essential-life-10th-edition/
Are you ready to release emotions that have been weighing you down? Book a session today!
Book with Vicki: https://vickilebrilla.com/coaching
Book with Sarah: https://sarahsepos.com/coaching
Vicki's Link- http://referral.doterra.me/1214454
Sarah's Link- https://referral.doterra.me/107766
Scoop of the Day
Use Citrus Bloom in your diffuser
Download your copy of Sarah's Vision Board template
https://theessentialoilscoop.com/visionboard
Welcome into our little essential oil world where we talk about the physical and emotional support of our essential oils.
Hi friends, don’t forget to leave us a review, your feedback is always welcome, and helps this podcast reach more ears.
Join us in our New Facebook Community!
Connect on Instagram
We upload a brand new episode every Tuesday and Thursday!
Want to learn more about us? theessentialoilscoop.com
Remember to like, share, and subscribe to our podcast so you will be notified every time we upload a brand new episode. Leave us a review as well, your feedback is always welcome.
Also opt-in to our newsletter at https://theessentialoilscoop.com/newsletter
If you have any questions or have subject ideas you would like us to cover please email us at theessentialoilscoop@gmail.com
Tag us on socials using #theessentialoilscoop #essentialoilpodcast #oilpodcast
Disclaimer:
Welcome to The Essential Oil Scoop Podcast. We want to remind our listeners that the information provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The use of essential oils is a personal choice and should be done at your own risk. We are not medical professionals and cannot diagnose, treat, or prescribe any medical condition. Please consult with a qualified healthcare provider before using any essential oils or making changes to your healthcare routine. Any information or opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any particular organization. Thank you for listening.

Thursday Dec 18, 2025
Thursday Dec 18, 2025
Another Thursday, so that means another wonderful episode being dropped. In Ep.263 we talk all things Emotions Stored in the Body~ Stomach~ Emotional Healing using these two oils, Calmer & Immortelle.
So grab a comfy seat, tune in and enjoy learning a bit more about the emotional connection associated with our stomachs and the oils we can lean on in times of need.
Love you all.
Also...... Get this Book! Link for Essential Emotions book. You need it. https://aromatools.com/collections/frontpage/products/essential-emotions-14th-edition
Pre Order The Essential Life book here https://essentiallife.com/product/essential-life-10th-edition/
Are you ready to release emotions that have been weighing you down? Book a session today!
Book with Vicki: https://vickilebrilla.com/coaching
Book with Sarah: https://sarahsepos.com/coaching
Vicki's Link- http://referral.doterra.me/1214454
Sarah's Link- https://referral.doterra.me/107766
Scoop of the Day
Look Deeper Questions:
What are my underlying fears and concerns?
Am I catastrophizing or focusing on the worst-case scenario?
What will it take to interrupt this pattern of worry and shift my focus to problem-solving and self-regulation?
Welcome into our little essential oil world where we talk about the physical and emotional support of our essential oils.
Hi friends, don’t forget to leave us a review, your feedback is always welcome, and helps this podcast reach more ears.
Join us in our New Facebook Community!
Connect on Instagram
We upload a brand new episode every Tuesday and Thursday!
Want to learn more about us? theessentialoilscoop.com
Remember to like, share, and subscribe to our podcast so you will be notified every time we upload a brand new episode. Leave us a review as well, your feedback is always welcome.
Also opt-in to our newsletter at https://theessentialoilscoop.com/newsletter
If you have any questions or have subject ideas you would like us to cover please email us at theessentialoilscoop@gmail.com
Tag us on socials using #theessentialoilscoop #essentialoilpodcast #oilpodcast
Disclaimer:
Welcome to The Essential Oil Scoop Podcast. We want to remind our listeners that the information provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The use of essential oils is a personal choice and should be done at your own risk. We are not medical professionals and cannot diagnose, treat, or prescribe any medical condition. Please consult with a qualified healthcare provider before using any essential oils or making changes to your healthcare routine. Any information or opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any particular organization. Thank you for listening.

Tuesday Dec 16, 2025
Tuesday Dec 16, 2025
The Oil of Release and Renewal: Feeling Liberated with RevitaZen is exactly what we are talking about today. A newer oil blend created and released back in September 2025, and it has quickly become a fan favorite for many of those wanting a gentle and effective way to support a detox of major organs.
We hope you enjoy learning more about this wonderful blend of oils. As we wrap up 2025, may you remember just how powerful your body is and how you have all you need to help it along the journey of life.
Also...... Get this Book! Link for Essential Emotions book. You need it. https://aromatools.com/collections/frontpage/products/essential-emotions-14th-edition
Pre Order The Essential Life book here https://essentiallife.com/product/essential-life-10th-edition/
Are you ready to release emotions that have been weighing you down? Book a session today!
Book with Vicki: https://vickilebrilla.com/coaching
Book with Sarah: https://sarahsepos.com/coaching
Vicki's Link- http://referral.doterra.me/1214454
Sarah's Link- https://referral.doterra.me/107766
Scoop of the Day
Take Action and use this beautiful tool today!!
Diffuser Blend
3 Revitazen
3 Pink Pepper
Welcome into our little essential oil world where we talk about the physical and emotional support of our essential oils.
Hi friends, don’t forget to leave us a review, your feedback is always welcome, and helps this podcast reach more ears.
Join us in our New Facebook Community!
Connect on Instagram
We upload a brand new episode every Tuesday and Thursday!
Want to learn more about us? theessentialoilscoop.com
Remember to like, share, and subscribe to our podcast so you will be notified every time we upload a brand new episode. Leave us a review as well, your feedback is always welcome.
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Tag us on socials using #theessentialoilscoop #essentialoilpodcast #oilpodcast
Disclaimer:
Welcome to The Essential Oil Scoop Podcast. We want to remind our listeners that the information provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The use of essential oils is a personal choice and should be done at your own risk. We are not medical professionals and cannot diagnose, treat, or prescribe any medical condition. Please consult with a qualified healthcare provider before using any essential oils or making changes to your healthcare routine. Any information or opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any particular organization. Thank you for listening.

Thursday Dec 11, 2025
Thursday Dec 11, 2025
Let's have some fun today, shall we. Many of us are most likely scrambling to find the perfect gift this holiday season. Well, no need to stress over it. Cause we have some great ideas to help you share your love of doterra with your loved ones this holiday season.
Welcome into The Essential Gift Guide: Easy, Thoughtful Holiday Ideas with doTERRA
Also...... Get this Book! Link for Essential Emotions book. You need it. https://aromatools.com/collections/frontpage/products/essential-emotions-14th-edition
Pre Order The Essential Life book here https://essentiallife.com/product/essential-life-10th-edition/
Are you ready to release emotions that have been weighing you down? Book a session today!
Book with Vicki: https://vickilebrilla.com/coaching
Book with Sarah: https://sarahsepos.com/coaching
Vicki's Link- http://referral.doterra.me/1214454
Sarah's Link- https://referral.doterra.me/107766
Scoop of the Day
Share the gift of doTERRA this season
Vicki's Hot Cocoa Recipe:
Add a drop or two of Wild Orange int your fav cocoa
OR add a drop peppermint into your cocoa
Sarah's Favorite Bath Bomb
1 cup Baking Soda https://amzn.to/4l3JiO13/4 cup Citric Acid https://amzn.to/3Rl996l1/2 cup Corn Starch https://amzn.to/42hdKeV2 tbsp Epsom Salt https://amzn.to/4ldpp761/2 cup Coconut Oil ( melted) https://amzn.to/4iS0LaM10-20 drops essential oil of yourchoiceBath Bomb Mold https://amzn.to/3WfKDFJ
Welcome into our little essential oil world where we talk about the physical and emotional support of our essential oils.
Hi friends, don’t forget to leave us a review, your feedback is always welcome, and helps this podcast reach more ears.
Join us in our New Facebook Community!
Connect on Instagram
We upload a brand new episode every Tuesday and Thursday!
Want to learn more about us? theessentialoilscoop.com
Remember to like, share, and subscribe to our podcast so you will be notified every time we upload a brand new episode. Leave us a review as well, your feedback is always welcome.
Also opt-in to our newsletter at https://theessentialoilscoop.com/newsletter
If you have any questions or have subject ideas you would like us to cover please email us at theessentialoilscoop@gmail.com
Tag us on socials using #theessentialoilscoop #essentialoilpodcast #oilpodcast
Disclaimer:
Welcome to The Essential Oil Scoop Podcast. We want to remind our listeners that the information provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The use of essential oils is a personal choice and should be done at your own risk. We are not medical professionals and cannot diagnose, treat, or prescribe any medical condition. Please consult with a qualified healthcare provider before using any essential oils or making changes to your healthcare routine. Any information or opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any particular organization. Thank you for listening.

Tuesday Dec 09, 2025
Tuesday Dec 09, 2025
What aroma reminds you of the holidays? Is it the smell of fresh backed goodies, the smell of the Christmas tree, or simply the aroma of your favorite essential oil blends?
In this episode we break down the emotional support that two fav holiday blends can bring into your life. We are discussing, Holiday Joy & Holiday Peace: Emotional Support for Stress, Healing, and Presence.
Stress doesn't have to take over this season. Allow yourself the freedom of feeling more at peace and less of a mess. Enjoy tuning in.
Also...... Get this Book! Link for Essential Emotions book. You need it. https://aromatools.com/collections/frontpage/products/essential-emotions-14th-edition
Pre Order The Essential Life book here https://essentiallife.com/product/essential-life-10th-edition/
Are you ready to release emotions that have been weighing you down? Book a session today!
Book with Vicki: https://vickilebrilla.com/coaching
Book with Sarah: https://sarahsepos.com/coaching
Vicki's Link- http://referral.doterra.me/1214454
Sarah's Link- https://referral.doterra.me/107766
Scoop of the Day
Diffuser Blends
4 Holiday Joy
2 Cinnamon
or
4 Holiday Peace
4 Wild Orange
Welcome into our little essential oil world where we talk about the physical and emotional support of our essential oils.
Hi friends, don’t forget to leave us a review, your feedback is always welcome, and helps this podcast reach more ears.
Join us in our New Facebook Community!
Connect on Instagram
We upload a brand new episode every Tuesday and Thursday!
Want to learn more about us? theessentialoilscoop.com
Remember to like, share, and subscribe to our podcast so you will be notified every time we upload a brand new episode. Leave us a review as well, your feedback is always welcome.
Also opt-in to our newsletter at https://theessentialoilscoop.com/newsletter
If you have any questions or have subject ideas you would like us to cover please email us at theessentialoilscoop@gmail.com
Tag us on socials using #theessentialoilscoop #essentialoilpodcast #oilpodcast
Disclaimer:
Welcome to The Essential Oil Scoop Podcast. We want to remind our listeners that the information provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The use of essential oils is a personal choice and should be done at your own risk. We are not medical professionals and cannot diagnose, treat, or prescribe any medical condition. Please consult with a qualified healthcare provider before using any essential oils or making changes to your healthcare routine. Any information or opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any particular organization. Thank you for listening.

Friday Dec 05, 2025
Friday Dec 05, 2025
A day late but still a great episode. Join us as we discuss Emotions Stored in the Body: the Liver & Gallbladder- Emotional Detox to Realize Your Potential
Tune into tonights episode, and take action to help your detox form your emotions.
Services for Impaired drivers for specific holidays
AAA tow to go
Ride Sober Indiana (check your local state)
MADD visit your local chapter website
myDDride
Uber/Lyft
Also Check with local bars
Do your research or volunteer to help with the organizations
Also...... Get this Book! Link for Essential Emotions book. You need it. https://aromatools.com/collections/frontpage/products/essential-emotions-14th-edition
Pre Order The Essential Life book here https://essentiallife.com/product/essential-life-10th-edition/
Are you ready to release emotions that have been weighing you down? Book a session today!
Book with Vicki: https://vickilebrilla.com/coaching
Book with Sarah: https://sarahsepos.com/coaching
Vicki's Link- http://referral.doterra.me/1214454
Sarah's Link- https://referral.doterra.me/107766
Scoop of the Day
Book mark and come back to this episode
Diffuser Blend
2 Cardamom
4 Vanilla
3 Wild Orange/ Green mandarin
Welcome into our little essential oil world where we talk about the physical and emotional support of our essential oils.
Hi friends, don’t forget to leave us a review, your feedback is always welcome, and helps this podcast reach more ears.
Join us in our New Facebook Community!
Connect on Instagram
We upload a brand new episode every Tuesday and Thursday!
Want to learn more about us? theessentialoilscoop.com
Remember to like, share, and subscribe to our podcast so you will be notified every time we upload a brand new episode. Leave us a review as well, your feedback is always welcome.
Also opt-in to our newsletter at https://theessentialoilscoop.com/newsletter
If you have any questions or have subject ideas you would like us to cover please email us at theessentialoilscoop@gmail.com
Tag us on socials using #theessentialoilscoop #essentialoilpodcast #oilpodcast
Disclaimer:
Welcome to The Essential Oil Scoop Podcast. We want to remind our listeners that the information provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The use of essential oils is a personal choice and should be done at your own risk. We are not medical professionals and cannot diagnose, treat, or prescribe any medical condition. Please consult with a qualified healthcare provider before using any essential oils or making changes to your healthcare routine. Any information or opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any particular organization. Thank you for listening.

Tuesday Dec 02, 2025
Tuesday Dec 02, 2025
We don't always talk about how life can feel a bit overwhelming at times, but today we are. We are here to highlight a December promotions that just so happen to help calm that mind, body, and sprit of yours in more ways than you may think.
Enjoy learning!
#adaptivoil #anxious #decemberpromotions
Ep.256- https://theessentialoilscoop.podbean.com/e/ep-256-the-oil-of-truth-the-wisdom-and-healing-of-frankincense/
Also...... Get this Book! Link for Essential Emotions book. You need it. https://aromatools.com/collections/frontpage/products/essential-emotions-14th-edition
Pre Order The Essential Life book here https://essentiallife.com/product/essential-life-10th-edition/
Are you ready to release emotions that have been weighing you down? Book a session today!
Book with Vicki: https://vickilebrilla.com/coaching
Book with Sarah: https://sarahsepos.com/coaching
Vicki's Link- http://referral.doterra.me/1214454
Sarah's Link- https://referral.doterra.me/107766
Scoop of the Day
Vicki's Diffuser blend
3 Wild Orange
3 Adaptiv
Sarah's Diffuser Blend
4 Adaptiv
2 Frankincense
Use 3-4 drops of your favorite Christmas scent on your passive diffuser. I like using Holiday Peace but you can also use Black Spruce, Northern Escape
Welcome into our little essential oil world where we talk about the physical and emotional support of our essential oils.
Hi friends, don’t forget to leave us a review, your feedback is always welcome, and helps this podcast reach more ears.
Join us in our New Facebook Community!
Connect on Instagram
We upload a brand new episode every Tuesday and Thursday!
Want to learn more about us? theessentialoilscoop.com
Remember to like, share, and subscribe to our podcast so you will be notified every time we upload a brand new episode. Leave us a review as well, your feedback is always welcome.
Also opt-in to our newsletter at https://theessentialoilscoop.com/newsletter
If you have any questions or have subject ideas you would like us to cover please email us at theessentialoilscoop@gmail.com
Tag us on socials using #theessentialoilscoop #essentialoilpodcast #oilpodcast
Disclaimer:
Welcome to The Essential Oil Scoop Podcast. We want to remind our listeners that the information provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The use of essential oils is a personal choice and should be done at your own risk. We are not medical professionals and cannot diagnose, treat, or prescribe any medical condition. Please consult with a qualified healthcare provider before using any essential oils or making changes to your healthcare routine. Any information or opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any particular organization. Thank you for listening.

Tuesday Nov 25, 2025
Tuesday Nov 25, 2025
This time of the year is an emotional time for many. Let's better understand out emotions and what they do inside our beautiful bodies. Today's topic is all about our Pancreas Connection: Insecurity, Self-Reliance, and Emotional Health.
This conversation is a good one. So sit back and relax. Enjoy this conversation.
#emotionsandoils #essentialoils #relax #pancreas
Also...... Get this Book! Link for Essential Emotions book. You need it. https://aromatools.com/collections/frontpage/products/essential-emotions-14th-edition
Pre Order The Essential Life book here https://essentiallife.com/product/essential-life-10th-edition/
Are you ready to release emotions that have been weighing you down? Book a session today!
Book with Vicki: https://vickilebrilla.com/coaching
Book with Sarah: https://sarahsepos.com/coaching
Vicki's Link- http://referral.doterra.me/1214454
Sarah's Link- https://referral.doterra.me/107766
Scoop of the Day
Diffuser Blend
3 Cassia
3 Roman Chamomile
2 Spearmint
Welcome into our little essential oil world where we talk about the physical and emotional support of our essential oils.
Hi friends, don’t forget to leave us a review, your feedback is always welcome, and helps this podcast reach more ears.
Join us in our New Facebook Community!
Connect on Instagram
We upload a brand new episode every Tuesday and Thursday!
Want to learn more about us? theessentialoilscoop.com
Remember to like, share, and subscribe to our podcast so you will be notified every time we upload a brand new episode. Leave us a review as well, your feedback is always welcome.
Also opt-in to our newsletter at https://theessentialoilscoop.com/newsletter
If you have any questions or have subject ideas you would like us to cover please email us at theessentialoilscoop@gmail.com
Tag us on socials using #theessentialoilscoop #essentialoilpodcast #oilpodcast
Disclaimer:
Welcome to The Essential Oil Scoop Podcast. We want to remind our listeners that the information provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The use of essential oils is a personal choice and should be done at your own risk. We are not medical professionals and cannot diagnose, treat, or prescribe any medical condition. Please consult with a qualified healthcare provider before using any essential oils or making changes to your healthcare routine. Any information or opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any particular organization. Thank you for listening.










